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Christians Are Commanded
"Thou shalt not bear false witness"

So Why Do Some Christians Lie About Mormonism?

Frankly, my Friends, I am puzzled ... I don't suppose that you are much different from me in expecting to be told the truth or in being disappointed when someone you trust is dishonest and tells you Fantastique Tales masquerading as God's Eternal Truth. 
  
We will all agree that honest people will ensure their information agrees with what is actually True rather than tell you what is profitable, and that no honest person will deliberately lead others with page upon page of lies for no better reason than to get more and more of what Jesus disparagingly called Mammon.

  

No man can serve two masters:
for either he will hate the one, and love the other;
or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God and Mammon.

[Matthew 6:24 - AV]

  

Wicliffe was more direct in his translation of this passage, rendering it:

"Ye moun not serve god and ricchesse"

  

Despite this direct commandment to serve God and not seek for wealth through religion some modern Christians deliberately foment lies and hatred by inventing lies and publishing them in order to line their seemingly bottomless pockets.

 
Every world faith has a moral core and speaking the truth without guile and falseness is and essential part of that core. Those that abandon truth to concoct lies and false images of their 'enemies' are ungodly and they are not Christians, because they ignore and rebel against God who commands:

'Thou shalt not bear false witness ... '

  
You would be puzzled, and rightly so, if someone described the transcendent Adagio from Bruch's Violin Concerto No. One [Click on link to hear it] as "Horsehair scraping on catgut!" If you know the piece you will be justified in questioning his musicality and knowledge of the masterpiece.  

  

Likewise, if you ask directions and are deliberately sent off in the wrong direction, would you trust that person to direct you a second time?  Probably not, and you would be justified in questioning their motives.
  
These examples illustrate my problem. I have been lied to by those claiming to be followers of Jesus Christ for more than sixty-six years about the nature, doctrines, and history of my sacred faith, which is The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints.  I want to know why the misleaders - most of whom do not know me - think it is morally acceptable to God and Christ when they lie to me.

I am not the the only victim of Anti-Mormon misinformation. Anti-Mormons spread their tentacles around the world in all directions without consideration for their victims.  Unfortunately, these 'ministers of lies' harm not only Latter-day Saints, but also harm those seeking to understand Mormonism as believed, taught, understood, and practiced by Mormon-Christians in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

  
OFFICIAL
  
Not everyone that disagrees
with Mormonism
is an Anti-Mormon 

 

Anti-Mormons fit into a special slot in the Religious Continuum occupied by those that take part in Religious Discourse and are easily identifiable as spiritual and social misfits whose activities have nothing to do with doctrinal disagreements although that is often proferred as the reason for the well-provisioned so-called Christian Cults that persecute and harry Christians that are about doing as the earliest Christians did. Mormons are superlatively Christian and the Lord Jesus Christ is the  Lord and Saviour of Latter-day Saints exactly as the Holy Bible prescribes. 

Anti-Mormons' reasons for "hate-warfare" bears no relation to the good behaviour of true Christian Believers that do not tell lies about other Christians with whose perspectives they disagree.

Anti-Mormons, in common with Anti-Jewish, Anti-Muslim, Anti-Negro, Anti-Roman Catholic, &c hate groups, that vex, plague, and spew their hatred at decent people, are from the same spiritually disturbed ranks from which Anti-Mormonism smokes up.  

One Anti-Mormon, Peter Ould [See: 'Ezekiel's Sticks'], told me that he was on a bus in Venezuela when two Mormon missionaries boarded it.  He then told me in effect that,

"God told me to go after Mormons
and make their lives as miserable as possible"  

  

Thus, with what the Devil tricked him into believeing that he had now a "Divine Commission" in his back pocket, he set out to make Mormons' lives as miserable as he could. 

When I met Mr Ould at an Anti-Mormon conference hosted by the late Doug Harries of Reach Out Trust [ROT] he had been sniping at Latter-day Saints for twenty years. 

Sadly, he rested his confidence in professional Anti-Mormons such as Sandra Tanner, that he claims as a friend and referent, and an organisation founded by Marion Dasvies the Witch Hunter who rose to brief fame and conned several Police Departments in the UK before handing the reins over to the Late Dough Harris, both of which are organisations that have crippling difficulties in identifying what constitutes Mormon belief and practice, notwithstanding that both organisations have excommunicated  Latter-day Saints on their "Advisory Boards" and payrolls.

Mr Ould had an anti-Mormon website, 'Close Scrutiny,' that invited comments. He accepted an article from me (it can be read here as '
Ezekiel's Sticks') but found he was hopelessly lost in the subject so he took down my contribution and closed his site for comments.  Clearly Peter Ould was not prepared to,

" ... sanctify the Lord God in [his]  heart,"
nor was he "ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh [him]
a reason of the hope that is in [him] with meekness and fear"  --1 Peter 3:15

  

I though that was a poor show, and even ex-Mormon Mike Thomas, a member of the 'Ministry Team' at ROT, said of Ould after our long correspondence in which Ould showed himself clearly out of his depth, 

"He could have chosen a better hill to die on!"  

Peter Ould unabashedly boasted to me, in person when we shared a bedroom at a ROT event that he was a "Bible scholar" and "an expert in linguistics." Unfortunately for the bragger his expertese was limited to "English" and "German" so when his ignorance of Hebrew, Exegesis, and Eisegesis, showed himself to be an off-beat  Serminsiser - and none to good at that - he picked up his ball and his bat and, like Georgie-Porgie, he ran away home and abruptly broke off our untangling the web of lies and deceit he had woven and nothing ever served to briong him back into the arena of our debate. 

Ould, Tanner, Decker, Martin, Smith, et al, as do "birds of a feather" work hard burbning their midnight candles fenagling ways by whch to  mis-represent Mormons and Mormonism in the same ways that New testament Pharisees misrepresented Jesus to persuade the Romans to nail him on the cross at Golgotha. Yesterday's and today's Pharisees have not changed their methods. They lied about Jesus and they lie about Momons! We Latter-day Saints confront them with evidence of their lies and they hop on their bicycles and disappear in a cloud of their dust. 

The last news I had of Mr Ould he was studying to be a minister of a Non-LDS Christian denomination [that was in 2012].  Perhaps he will have learned by now that Christians are directed in Holy Scripture how to conduct themselves. But then, unless he has matured, spiritually and mentally, perhaps not.

Apparently Ould was a successful ordinand and had another blog that he shut down two years ago. I can only hope that he spends his time truthfully and profitably as a Christian minister than he did when he set about Mormons and Mormonism in his displays of misplaced beliefs about Mormons and his unkindness to me and Mormons in general in the Anti-Mormon pursuits he followed when he was younger and filled with hatred for any that had the effrontery to believe in ways that differed from his ways when he was a younger man.  

Anything mean, nasty, tawdry, insane, blasphemous, or petty that can be charged against Mormons and Mormonism, has been repeatedly regurgitated to persuade the unwary to accept falsehood as truth and encourage them to join the ranks of the spiritually disturbed. 

Therefore, only those that participate in "Hate Ministries" in their Gospels of Hatred and prevarication, and those alone are those I designate as "Anti-Mormon."

  

It must be understood that members of The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints are not at war with any form of Christianity or against any faith, and neither am I.

I am not at war with Peter Ould who made it clear he was at war with me and at war with the other 16,000,000 Mormons he believes threaten his mind, and disturb his inner-world imaginative model of Christian particularism that he espouses as he wanders in and out of Latter-Day Saint bokstores wearing a baggy jumper that resembles chain mail with a faded Crusader's Cross on it. Time to give it up, Peter, and become honest.

Mr Ould is unaware that murderous Crusaders, whose questionable nobility and
imago he Puckishly takes on when he dons his sweater as a timid Latter-day Crusader.

Crusaders were some of the wost men the world has ever seen, unless one is blinded by misplaced romanticism, and they did more than wander in and out of Jewish and Saracen shops and markets when they had grown tired of beating the brains out of babes and infants against the once-sacred walls of Herod's temple.  What ougfht anyione tom expect when rilers loosed the worst of the worst from their dungeons to become "Sainted Crusaders?" 

  

Pregnant women,guiltless of anything except irritating mediaeval Peter Oulds were ripped open, their unborn babies removed and mutilated. Their modern day exemplars now condemn abortion but elevate and adore those of old that practiced their own brand of Christian Abortion on women of their own faith and women of other faiths. Evil thoughts, lies, fictionalised antagonists, such as the Infamous Jewish Blood Libel, killed thousands of good people, even as their descendants persecute, harry, and spread their viciousd messages of hate that they attempt, vasinly, to justiofy from Sacred Writ, set about millions of today's innocents.

Nor did Ould's Bloodstained Heroes limit their religiose activities: they set about Jews and Muslims well away from the Holy Land as they went to wrest Jerusalem from the hands of the very Saracens whose Suleiman the Maginficent preserved and rebuilt the ruins of the Holy City of Jerusalem. Rather they murdered those two groups and additionally they slaughtered thousands of Christians in cities along their way from European states to reach the Holy Land. Crusading Demons were just as deadly because as Peter Ould's mentors, exemplars, and idols slaughtered the bodies of men, women, and children, Mr Ould reaches past them in his hate-inspired passions to kill the souls of innocent Latter-day Saints. Torquemada will be proud of his disciple.

The Holy Bible, that Ould claims as his scripture, warns Christians against evil operators such as Ould who not only does not know the truth and refuses to learn it, being a friend of Professional Anti-Momon  Sandra Tanner, but he has neither the scholastic rigour nor the mental courage to admit when he has been bested in a discussion that reveals his incompetence regarding the contents of the Holy Bible and his inadequate knowledge of Biblical languages.

  

Armed with Strong's tome in place of a sword, imagining it will tell him all he needs to know. It does not, and moreover it misldeads him because he is unable to employ Strong's apparatus and that adds to his difficulties, as evidentHERE.

  

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has Thirteen Articles of Faith, the eleventh of which is:

  
We claim the privilege of worshipping Almighty God
according to the dictates of our own conscience,
and allow all men the same privilege,
let them worship how, where, or what they may.

  

  
I have spent a small fortune - I have never had a big fortune - buying books, pamphlets, videos, CDs, DVDs, attending Anti-Mormon rallies and conferences that are nothing more than one-way lectures without any conferring between people that understand Mormonism. I have also corresponded at length with people that solemnly promised to tell me everything and to be honest in their communications. Alas, most of them proved they could not tolerate honest interrogation about their own 'Christian' doctrines, rites, and practices, and so I have never received the fruits of their promises, although I have always kept my word. Their prevaricating misinformation is found  on the shelves of 'Christian' book shops to deceive and mislead the gullible.
  
On these pages I survey many of their claims and illuminate the lies they use to misrepresent Mormonism. Their false teahcings do not stand up to the Devil's twisted tests of truth, and you will know that he is not choosy, but they fail miserably when tried wiht God's tests of truth. 
  
I apply the simple standard of whether what is said agrees with known and verifiable facts, or whether gusts of hostile intentions have wafted them off-course and shipwrecked them in realms of malignant hobgoblins, hellish daemons, conniving witches, and wicked faeries.  You may then judge for yourself where truth stands.

  

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Ronnie Bray

 
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MCELVEEN'S 'ANONYMOUS' MORMONS
WALL TO WALL ANONYMOUS WITNESSES
UNIVERSAL APOSTASY PROPHESIES IN THE HOLY BIBLE
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THE PERSECUTED CHURCH TURNS ITS HAND TO PERSECUTING
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EXTERNAL CAUSES OF APOSTASY
CORRUPTION OF THE RITE OF BAPTISM
FIENDISHLY CLEVER!
THE ANTI-MORMONS' FLAW
A FRESH LOOK AT 2 TIMOSTHY 3:16-17
THE ANTI-MORMON PREDICAMENT
INVENTING CUMORAH
JOSEPH SMITH PROPHET OF GOD
MORMONS AND MOON MEN
BAPTISM BY TOTAL IMMERSION ESSENTIAL FOR SALVATION
PAUL & BAPTISM FOR THE DEAD - WHO ARE 'THEY'?
A LUTHERAN BISHOP ON BAPTISM FOR THE DEAD
SALVATION FOR THE DEAD: THE MORMON POSITION
BEECHER ON SALVATION FOR THE DEAD
PAUL AND GENEALOGY
ROT SPEAKS WITH FORKED ONGUE AND THREATENS FORMER DIRECTOR
REFORMED AEGYPTIAN - OOPS, I MEAN HEBREW!
REFORMED EGYPTIAN - AN HEBREW LITERARY PARALLEL
ANACHRONISMS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON
CROSS-EYED STAR GAZERS
FROM ANTI-MORMON TO MORMON - MY JOURNEY!
A DIVINE COMEDY
ANTI-MORMON LITERATURE - GUEST OP-ED
WORST OF THE ANTI-MORMON WEB #1
ED DECKER LIES - 1
ED DECKER LIES - 2
ED DECKER LIES - 3
ED DECKER LIES - 4
ED DECKER LIES - 5
ED DECKER LIES - 6
ED DECKER LIES - 7
ED DECKER LIES - 8
ED DECKER LIES - 9
ED DECKER LIES - 10
ANTI-MORMONS AWASH WITH BOGUS DEGREES
IS "DR" JAMES WHITE'S DOCTORATE BOGUS?
THE BIBLE CALLS THEM "FOOLS"
EGG ON FACES
UTAH MISSIONS INC. BATTLES AMONG ITSELF
REACH OUT TRUST [ROT] USES INNUENDO AS A WEAPON
ROT'S FORKED TONGUE
SATANIC INFLUENCE ADMITTED IN ROT JOURNAL
WHAT REACH OUT TRUST DARE NOT REVEAL
REACH OUT TRUST - THE POISONED CHALICE
REACH OUT TRUST EMBRACES DUNGEONS & DRAGONS
IMAGES OF HATE - MINISTERS OF FEAR CHAPTERS 1, 2, & 3
CHAPTER 4
CHAPTER 5
CHAPTER 6
CHAPTER 7
CHAPTER 8
CHAPTER 9
CHAPTER 10
CHAPTER 11
CHAPTERS 12 & 13
CHAPTER 14
CHAPTER 15
CHAPTER 16
CHAPTER 17
CHAPTER 18
CHAPTER 19
CHAPTER 20
CHAPTER 21
CHAPTER 22
CHAPTER 23
CHAPTER 24
CHAPTER 25
CHAPTER 26
CHAPTER 27
CHAPTER 28
CHAPTER 29
CHAPTER 30
CHAPTER 31
CHAPTER 32
APPENDIX 'A'
APPENDIX 'B'
APPENDIX 'C'
APPENDIX 'D'
BIBLIOGRAPHY
FOOTNOTES & THE END
ALMA 7:10 - SETTLED!
“AND IT CAME TO PASS”
GUEST OP-ED: WHAT'S WRONG WITH THOSE STUPID MORMONS?
FRED PHELPS' DEPRAVITY!
MORMONS & THE HOLY BIBLE
NON-MORMONS & THE HOLY BIBLE
MISSING BOOKS OF THE HOLY BIBLE
BIBLE - INERRANT? INFALLIBLE?
CARM.& THE HOLY BIBLE
CARM. THE BIBLE IS NOT THEIR FINAL AUTHORITY
'GOOD WORKS' IN BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY
WHAT THINK YE OF CHRIST?
CHRISTOLOGY ACCORDING TO EUSEBIUS
THE MORMON JESUS
MORMONS DO NOT SAY ALL NON-LDS CHRISTIANS ARE CORRUPT
MORMONS AND OTHER CHRISTIANS
A PASTOR ASKS A FAIR QUESTION.
CARM 101 - A DISAPPOINTMENT!
MCELVEEN'S DELUSION
SHAFOVALOFF FLUNKS THE 2 NEPHI 25:23 TEST
CARM.& ATONEMENT & SALVATION
CARM ~ MAKES IT UP!
CARM AND THE DEVIL
CARM ~ DOCTRINE OF GOD
CARM ON THE INCARNATION
CARM & THEOSIS
THE HULSES: LYIN' FER JESUS!
ROCKY HULSE
THE TRUTH ABOUT MORMONISM
JOSEPH SMITH
JOSEPH SMITH BY THOSE THAT KNEW HIM
TRUTH IN LOVE TO MORMONS . COM
DON'T SAY YOU LOVE ME IF IT ISN'T TRUE!
PLURAL MARRIAGE COMMANDED BY GOD
PLURAL MARRIAGE IN THE EARLY AND MEDIAEVAL AND LATER CGHRISTIAN CHURCHES
PLURAL MARRIAGE BROUGHT BACK BY EVANGELICALS
LORI MCGREGOR TALKS TWADDLE
CONCERNED CHRISTIANS INC,
JESUS TELLS CHRISTIANS TO FORSAKE THEIR SINS
A STINGING COMPLAINT AGAINST CONCERNED CHRISTIANS
R.O.T.
RENDELL'S DISHONEST CLAIMS
DOUG HARRIS BETRAYER & PROMISE BREAKER
L.O.U.T.
ROT'S SNEAKY FANATICS
ROT TALKS ROT
ROT'S FORKED TONGUE & DOUBLE MINDEDNESS
UNIVERSALISM TAUGHT - DR HANSON'S THOUGHTS
MINOR IRRITATIONS & PETTY NIGGLES
BOGUS 'DR' JAY DEE NELSON
GB HANCOCK
BOGUS 'DR' WALTER R MARTIN
BOGUS 'DOCTOR' WILLIE DYE
BOGUS 'DR' FALES
FALES' BOGUS DEFENDER
BOGUS RESPONSE TO BOGUS "DR" FALES
BRINKERHOFF'S EGREGIOUS ERROR
BRINKERHOFF'S TREACHERY EXPOSED - 1
BRINKERHOFF'S TREACHERY EXPOSED - 2
IS ANTI-MORMONISM CHRISTIAN ?
DANGEROUS FUNDAMENTALISM
"THE GOD-MAKERS"
GODMAKERS AND THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS - AN EDITORIAL
ERYL DAVIES
IS GOD IMMATERIAL?
THE VISIBLE GOD
EGYPTIAN INFLUENCE IN ANCIENT PALESTINE
EGYPTIAN INFLUENCE ON HEBREW THOUGHT AND LITERATURE
SEPARATING THE WHEAT FROM THE CHAFF
BEECHER ON MORMONS AND THE BIBLE
SALVATION & BAPTISM FOR THE DEAD
JESUS PREACHED IN HELL TO SAVE SOULS
THE JOHANNINE COMMA
EZEKIEL'S STICKS
BOOK OF MORMON
EVIDENCES OF THE BOOK OF MORMON
TEMPLES
JOSEPH SMITH'S OWN STORY
ELDER OAKS AT HARVARD LAW SCHOOL
SOME CHRISTIANS TELL LIES FOR CASH
MISCELLANY
YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED
THE WALL OF TRUTH & THE WALL OF SHAME
THE PERSECUTION CULTUS
INSANITY AWARDS
DAN CORNER CORNERED & PITCHFORKED!
ISAIAH 29 & THE BOOK OF MORMON
BOM CHANGES
AM I AN ANTI-MORMON?
WHY I AM A MORMON
COMPACT DISCS
THE INSANITY OF ANTI-MORMONISM
A FALSE DICHOTOMY - MORMONISM OR CHRISTIANITY - WHY MUST I CHOOSE WHEN I CAN BE BOTH AT THE SAME TIME?
A MORMON ANSWERS
DEIFICATION - THEOSIS CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE
SALVATION FOR THE DEAD - A BIBLE TEACHING
THE CHRIST OF MORMONISM IS THE CHRIST OF THE HOLY BIBLE
THE BOOK OF ABRAHAM
ON THE HOLY TRINITY
BIBLE TEACHINGS THAT DO NOT SUPPORT THE TRINITY - 01
AN EXAMPLE OF ANTI-MORMON FOOLISHNESS
A CASE STUDY ~ ANTI-MORMON ATTITUDES
JP HOLDING'S BOOK, "THE MORMON DEFENDERS"
ARE YOU PREPARED FOR HIM?
THE STANDARD OF TRUTH
BLACK MUSEUM OF ANTI-MORMONISM
THE SALAMANDER LETTER
DANITES - THE MYTH
I HAD A DREAM - A CAUTIONARY TALE
CARELESS TALK - DR MICHAEL L BROWN
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