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IMAGES OF HATE - MINISTERS OF FEAR

  

APPENDIX 'A'

DO MORMONS CHANT
'WONDERFUL LUCIFER'
IN THEIR TEMPLES

An example of a lie direct

  

In her recorded presentation, reference LM 009, Lorri MacGregor, head and chief beneficiary of a 'forced-to-close-for-being-a-hate-group' makes the following statement:

  

And do you know that in the Mormon Temple ceremony in Salt Lake City, you're not allowed to go into it, and neither are we, you have to have a recommend from your bishop and prove that all your tithes are paid, and, y'know, really keep your nose to the grindstone, about 20 Mormons, 20% of the Mormons make it into the Temple.

And it's secret, they're not allowed to talk to about it to even each other, they take blood oaths and various things in that Temple, but if you're interested in what goes on in the Temple we have a booklet out there that's word for word of what their Temple ceremony is. It's the most ridiculous thing!

However in part of this Temple ceremony in Salt Lake City the audience participates by crying out "-- -- ---".  "-- -- ---", they're all supposed to cry that out during the time in the ceremony.  And so they say it.  But you know what it Semetically [sic] says in Hebrew, "-- -- ---"? It says "Wonderful Lucifer" [the audience murmur]. It's no surprise then that in the Mormon Temple ceremony it is Lucifer who answers Adam when he prays.

And so many of the symbols found in and around the Temple concerned with Mormonism are symbols from the Satanic Bible, from the world of the occult.

  

McGregor is lying when she makes this claim

  

In this section of her highly lucrative hate ministry, MacGregor goes to great lengths to show how dependent Latter-day Saint theology and practice is upon Satanic influence and occult devices. In fact, Mrs MacGregor goes so far as to completely abandon truth! As is the case with her translation of "Mormon" in Chinese as "The Gates of Hell" [see APPENDIX 'B'], she falls victim to ignorance and to her ineptitude as a linguist and scholar, and to her eagerness to promulgate any piece of misinformation, however gross the lie, provided that it will serve her purpose. 

  

What foundation does MacGregor have for making her claim that Mormons "cry out Wonderful Lucifer?"  

  

There are several words which approximate the English word "wonderful" in Modern Hebrew. They are:  1. niph'la'   ~   2. maph'ly'   ~   3. tamuhah

The name "Lucifer" is variously rendered as:  1.'ayyeleth  ~  2.hashachar chochav nogahh   ~    

In Biblical Hebrew "wonderful" is rendered as:  1.pawlah  ~   2.pehleh  ~  3.shamaw

  

The proper name rendered "Lucifer" does not appear in the Hebrew scriptures. In the English Authorized Version it appears only in Isaiah 14.12.

Most Biblical scholars acknowledge that in this passage it refers to the king of Babylon's title of 'light-bringer' or 'brightness' or, 'shining one' or 'day star (Venus)',  and the passage in Latin was taken by Tertullian and others to refer to Satan and his fall from heaven.

Although the passage is now almost exclusively used to refer to Satan's descent from his former glorious position in the court of God to his place as antagonist, or adversary, in the human world, there is insufficient warrant in this passage alone to justify this.

MacGregor would be more justified in claiming that Mormons call out "wonderful king of Babylon" in Temple ceremonies, basing her claim on the name "Lucifer."  The word translated as "Lucifer" in the Authorized Version of the Bible is:  heylel

  

MacGregor says that the words used mean "wonderful Lucifer." In modern Hebrew the possibilities of MacGregor's alleged phrase are:

  

niph'la' ayyeleth or niph'la' hashachar chochav nogahh, or

maph'liy' ayyeleth or maph'liy' hashachar chochav nogahh, or

tamuhah ayyeleth, or tamuhah hashachar chochav nogahh.

  

The meanings of the words she claims are translated as "wonderful Lucifer" are:

  

1.: this is the name of a Hebrew letter, and is only ever used to identify the letter or as the number 80.

2.: this exists only as an inseparable preposition meaning either 'to' 'unto' 'for' or 'at.'

3.: this word means either 'God' or 'deity.'

  Since the only word applicable to a person is the last one, God, the very worst that Mormons can be accused of is calling out "wonderful God." Hardly a heresy!

But caution is indicated since there is nothing to suggest that the language used is Biblical or modern Hebrew, or any other known language, and attempts to make something out of another language on phonetic grounds - let alone Semitic or even semantic ones - we are entering into an employment which is the exclusive reserve of fools and knaves.

A Biblical Hebrew translation is not possible because the name "Lucifer" does not appear in the Hebrew Scriptures. Where it has been translated as appearing, the original meaning of the translated word has been erroneously transposed onto a personality. Setting aside this difficulty and proceeding with the exercise on MacGregor's terms the following would be the possible renderings:

  

1.  pawlaw heylel

2.  pehleh heylel

3. shamaw heylel.

  

Only number 2. approximates the phrase in Mormon Temple, and the translation is "Wonderful God" or "Praise to God"

Why does Lori McGregor Lie?

  

MacGregor's contribution is exposed for the singular and asinine piece of nastiness that it is.   

  

The Canadian Government forced MacGregor's hate-machine business to close its doors because its activities contravened Canada's Hate Laws.