What Are

'Concerned Christians'

Concerned About?

  

Anti-Mormon ministry, Concerned Christians of Mesa is an habitual abuser of Mormons and Mormonism, but when they are criticised for their manipulation and distrotions they play the 'poor me' victim game.

  

Victim-playing by religious abusers such as Concerned Christians involves one or more of the following:

  

  1. diverting attention away from acts of abuse by claiming that the abuse was justified based on another person's bad behavior (typically the real victim)
  2. soliciting sympathy from others in order to gain their assistance in supporting or enabling the abuse of a victim (known as proxy abuse).

It is common for abusers to engage in victim playing. This serves two purposes:

  

  1. justification to themselves – as a way of dealing with the cognitive dissonance that results from inconsistencies between the way they treat others and what they believe about themselves.
  2. justification to others – as a way of escaping harsh judgment or condemnation they may fear from others.

  

Victim playing by manipulators

Manipulators often play the victim role ("poor me") by portraying themselves as victims of circumstances or someone else's behavior in order to gain pity, sympathy or evoke compassion and thereby get something from another. Caring and conscientious people cannot stand to see anyone suffering and the manipulator often finds it easy to play on sympathy to get cooperation.

  

Victim playing is also:

  

  • a way of coping with social anxiety
  • a response to helplessness, betrayal and resentment
  • an attention seeking technique (as, for example, Münchausen syndrome, Münchausen syndrome by proxy and Münchausen by Internet).
  • a strategy used by abusers to elicit constructive criticism, rescue, or enabling behavior from others.

  

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Can 'Bishop' Jim ever tell the truth?

  

Links to many of the many lies told by

'Bishop' Jim Robertson

Bogus Professor Promoted
By Concerned Christians!

  

Dee Jay Nelson was promoted by the anti-Mormon ministry, Concerned  Christians of Mesa, AZ, as an expert Egyptologist. 

Why did this hate ministry fail to check their 'expert's' credentials?  Is it because they don’t check any credentials?

That would  account for their founder and chief apostle Jim Robertson making the false claim that he had been a Mormon Bishop!    

  

A few badly tattered pieces of papyrus, part of the collection held by Joseph Smith, were discovered in 1967 at the Metropolitan Museum in New York City.  The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was given these pieces of papyrus on November 27 1967. A few weeks later, they were described in the January 1968 edition of the Improvement Era (LDS Church magazine) as pieces of funerary documents of the “Book of the Dead” commonly buried with Egyptian mummies.  They were NOT identified by the LDS Church as “The Book of Abraham” papyrus roll.

  

Were these pieces part of the “Book of Abraham”?  NO!  The “Book of Abraham” was not among the fragments found. No one knows where that papyrus roll is and Dee Jay Nelson has never seen it.

  

Dee Jay Nelson set himself up as an authority on Egypt and Egyptology, when he was nothing of the sort.

  

Nelson has no credential and no degrees.  He is not a ‘Doctor’ and was never a ‘Professor’ although he advertised himself as both.  

  

In support of Nelson, Davis, Cowdrey, and Scales wrote, 

  

“Careful scholarship has already proved that Joseph Smith was wrong about the Pearl of Great Price.” (Who Really Wrote the Book of Mormon, p.4)  

  

On the same page it is claimed, 

  

“These (fragments) were identified by the Mormons as the long lost Book of Abraham, part of the Pearl of Great Price (p. 4).

  

There was no “careful scholarship”, only selective misquoting amounting to outright lies, and another even stranger lie was that the Church had “identified” the fragments as the “long lost Book of Abraham,” because neither the Church nor anyone connected to it had made any such claim.  

  

Then why the lies?

  

It is a good story if you are not particular about truth, to assert that the Church said it was the Book of Abraham, and then have these clever three come along and prove that the discovery has nothing to do with the Pearl of Great price.

  

Are such lies made up at board meetings of the Christian Research Institute, or is there a think tank for convoluted schemes to make the Mormon Church look bad?  And why do they so readily abandon Truth for lies that make Satan blush?

  

Let’s take a close look at Dee Jay Nelson.

  

  •  Nelson does not have the training, experience, education, or reputation to be referred to as an Egyptologist. His phoney credentials are accepted only in anti-Mormon circles.  
  •  Nelson was not requested by the Mormon Church to translate the fragments of papyrus, as he claimed.   
  •  Nelson was not asked by King Farouk of Egypt to translate or set up his majesty’s library, as he claimed.
  •  Nelson was not a well-respected Mormon, as he claimed.
  •  Nelson was not an influential Mormon, as he claimed: he was an inactive Latter-day Saint.
  • Nelson was never a professor, as he claimed, except a professor of deception.
  • Nelson was not learned and could not come to learned conclusions, as he claimed.
  • Nelson did not study the original papyrus of the Book of Abraham, as he claimed. 
  • Nelson did not discover that the papyri were Egyptian funerary documents containing passages from the Book of Breathings or Book of the Dead, as he claimed. This was already disclosed by the Church the improvement Era article that Nelson read in January 1986.
  • In Nelson’s lecture on the Book of Abraham, made 95 misleading statements.
  • Nelson claimed a BS in biology. He did not have one.
  • Nelson claimed an MS in Egyptology. He did not have one.
  •  Nelson claimed a PhD in Anthropology and Egyptology. He did not have one.
  • Nelson claimed a PhD (unspecified) from the Oriental Institute in Chicago. He did not have one.
  • Nelson claimed four degrees that he did not have.
  •  Nelson was a high school dropout.
  • The University of Chicago’s Oriental Institute wrote,

  

"No Dee Jay Nelson ever obtained a degree of any kind from this university … no one of that name ever enrolled here as a student." (Klaus Baer, Professor of Egyptology).  

  

  •  Dee Jay Nelson claimed to have written many books, etc., but the only book he wrote was on occult pyramid power. Presumably those who believe Dee Jay Nelson’s pronouncements about the Book of Abraham are in the grip of his occult pyramid power!   

  

  

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