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What about the [ALLEGED] poisoning in Scotland?

Was Ed Decker really poisoned by Masons (or Mormons) who dropped "7 times the lethal dose of arsenic" in his Coca-Cola at a pizza restaurant? 

  

Decker had claimed for years that while lecturing against Mormonism and Freemasonry in Scotland he was invited to lunch by a pastor, but at this lunch table was a suspicious man he didn't know. The "man" asked Decker if he could get him a refill on his Coke. Decker agreed. The man got up, took his Coke, and came back several minutes later with the refill. Decker thought that was odd that he would disappear and take so long, but he didn't think much of it and finished his Coke.

Then, only 20 minutes later, Decker began to vomit and had horrible stomach pains. He was immediately rushed to the emergency room of the local hospital where they pumped his stomach. Blood tests there found "7 times the lethal dose" of arsenic in his system. The doctors couldn't understand why he was still alive. But, praise the Lord, his life was spared yet again! 

  

When Decker is preaching against the Mormons he says it was the Mormons who tried to kill him with arsenic poisoning. When he is preaching against the Masons he suggests it was the Masons. He strongly insinuates that the unidentified "man" was a secret agent for the Mormons (or Masons) sent there to kill him. 

  

Several ANTI-Mormon researchers, [including] Wally Tope and Jerald Tanner, looked into Ed Scotland-pizza-parlour-arsenic-poisoning claims. 

They found those claims groundless and fraudulent.

 

Wally Tope (a well-known and quite likeable anti-Mormon who handed out his own homemade tracts) did an intense amount of research into his poisoning claims; so much so that Tope wrote a book on the matter titled Poisoning in Pizzaland: The REAL Story of Decker's Arsenic Poisoning.

The book is well over 100 pages long, and fully documented with photocopies of letters from physicians and others in Scotland and the U.S. who knew the Decker during his time in Scotland and treated him. The book contains copies of Decker's blood and urine tests. The book shows clearly that Decker had invented the arsenic-poisoning story only after coming back to the U.S. 

  

Tope actually spoke to the people Decker stayed with in Scotland, and to a veterinarian doctor in Ireland who treated Decker for stomach pains after eating a pizza in Scotland several nights before as well as Decker's own physician in Auburn, Washington. 

None of the people remember Decker vomiting or in convulsions. There was NO hospital stay (much less an emergency room) for Decker either in Scotland or Ireland as he had later claimed. There was NO pumping of the stomach at the hospital as Decker claimed. The very night Decker claimed he was in an emergency room having his stomach pumped, he was actually at a local Evangelical church preaching against Freemasonry. 

Tope got a taped copy of the actual lecture that night; Decker spoke clearly and strongly without any indication he was sick at all. He got letters from the vary pastor who took Decker to the Pizzaland pizza parlour. Tope found that Decker complained of stomach pains after the lecture, but slept well that night. The next day Decker flew to Ireland, where the stomach pains increased. He was seen by a friend of the people he was staying with, a veterinarian physician, and given something for the stomach pain. That was it. 

  

Tope even got a letter from Decker's physician after he came back to the U.S. The blood and urine tests showed Decker had arsenic of 27 micrograms; well within normal parameters. 

  

Pastor Sam Burton, the Evangelical pastor who asked Decker to come to Scotland, and who took Decker to Pizzaland, later wrote Tope, saying: 

"When I first heard that Mr. Decker was implying that either I or my dear friend, Leslie Jappy, had poisoned him, I thought it was a joke. The passing of time has shown that I thought wrong.

  

[says Tope] "For 10 years of so, I have lectured to churches and young groups on the subject of Mormonism. I have travelled a great deal, and have had a couple of articles published....when I heard of Mr. Decker's insinuations of attempted murder, I was shocked and even hurt. I had bought several copies of his book to distribute, paid good money to rent halls to show his film in, and Leslie and I had bought his lunch. Why would one Christian make that kind of accusation, who was like a kid at Christmas, being suspected of trying to take a brother's life...I'm terrible disillusioned by the whole affair. I can assure the reader of this. Leslie did not get a refill of diet coke (the poison was said to have been in a diet coke refill). I remember, not so much of my great powers of recall, but because I've eaten at Pizzaland many times and they have waitress service and the waitresses bring you your refill should you request one. Even refill is a poor word. Another drink would be a better expression. My sincere prayer is that all this childishness goes away before the Mormons are able to capitalize upon it....Let the truth of this 'poisoning' affair be known, and let it die, that we might be about the Father's business." (in "Serious Charges Against the Tanners," 1991, p.43) 

  

Decker had claimed that Pastor Burton had taken him to a pizza parlour in Inverness, Scotland, and brought a man he didn't know along, and that the "man" asked Decker if he could refill his Coke, and Decker consented, but soon after drinking the refill he got "violently" ill and had to be rushed to the emergency room at a local hospital to have his stomach pumped, and it was found that he had "7 times the lethal dose" of arsenic in his blood! 

  

Pastor Burton, a man who lectured against the Mormon Church in Scotland for 10 years, who rented halls to show The God Makers film, said that he and Decker spoke for several hours after the lunch at Pizzaland, and that Decker showed "no signs of being ill." (ibid.). Pastor Burton was upset that Decker would insinuate that the "man" who they had lunch with put arsenic in his Coke; the man (whom Decker never names) was Leslie Jappy, a man Pastor Burton knew for many years as a Christian brother; a man who had never been a Mason nor a Mormon. 

  

Dr. Charles B. Sweigard of Auburn, Washington, Decker's physician at that time, took blood and urine test of Decker as soon as he arrived home, and he found that Decker had, among other things, an arsenic level of uGu (micrograms). A normal person at any given moment has an arsenic level of anywhere from 0 micrograms to 30 micrograms. Decker reported that his doctor told him that he had "7 times the lethal dosage" of arsenic in his system. In fact, he had a "normal" amount as any person on earth. A person eating a seafood dinner would have at least 170 micrograms of arsenic in their system; many times the amount Decker had. The minimal amount of arsenic that would cause somebody to die would be about 120,000 micrograms. Decker had 27 micrograms. 

  

In a lecture, taped February 1987, Decker says: 

  

"I'm still fighting the problems of having what the doctor's estimated as seven times the amount of arsenic in my body that would kill a man." (Serious Charges, p.36) 

  

Decker lied. 

  

The Tanners conclude that Decker probably got sick on the prescription medication he was taking for arthritis which contained indomethacin; which causes weakness in the muscles and upset stomach (the only symptoms reported by the Irish veterinarian and Decker's own physician in Auburn, Washington). 

  

Tope was working on a larger book which was a purported "expose'" of Ed Decker and Jeremiah Films. Tope was claiming that after he wrote Poisoning in Pizzaland he began to research more into Decker's claims, and had found enough for a large book, and was working on it. Tope confronted Decker at an anti-Mormon conference in Utah; pointing his finger at Ed and calling him a "fraud" and "liar". Ed grabbed Tope's finger (the one he was pointing at Ed with) and SNAPPED IT! Ed Decker broke Wally Tope's finger! 

  

Decker presents himself as a spiritual-giant, a "Man of God". Yet Mormons who know him KNOW he is a conniving, vile, vengeful, UTTERLY ruthless and VICIOUS man who uses ANY lie, and any THING, to get back on anyone who criticizes him in the least. Decker does NOT turn-the-other-cheek! Not once. 

  

Wally Tope did not get a chance to finish his expose of Ed Decker. During the L.A. riots in 1991, Wally Tope had driven from his home in La Canada-Flintridge (just above Pasadena) to the riot areas; for the purpose of "witnessing for Jesus" to the people rioting. A black man and a Chicano man were coming out of a supermarket. They had stolen goods in their arms. Wally confronted them and tried to "witness" to them. They dropped the goods and commenced to beat Wally; eventually kicking him while he was on the ground and unconscious. They continued to kick Tope in the head after he was on the ground and obviously unconscious. Wally died later in a hospital of head injuries. 

  

The Tanners later reproduced much of Tope's evidence against Decker's poisoning claims in a book they published titled Problems in The God Makers II; which is available via Utah Lighthouse Ministries online. 

  

What happened is typical "Decker". He goes to Scotland to show The God Makers and preach against Masons and Mormons. He is invited for lunch by a pastor and another man who helped pass-out leaflets for The God Makers showing. Decker takes his arthritis medication. He later gets and upset stomach and becomes very weak, but continues to lecture.

  

The next day he is flown to Ireland where his stomach becomes more upset, and considers going to a hospital. The people he is staying with ask a veterinarian to look at him. He returns back to the U.S. and still is very weak and has a very upset stomach. At no time does he enter a hospital. He goes to his own physician who runs blood and urine tests. He is tested for arsenic, and it proves negative (he has a normal level). Later, Decker invents a story where he insinuates he is poisoned by a man who accompanies him and the pastor; a man who did not know who got a refill for him on his Coke. Twenty minutes later he is rushed to the emergency room and his stomach is pumped. He is told that there was "7 times the lethal dose" of arsenic in his stomach, and doctors can't understand why he is still alive!

  

He tells these stories, and many similar false and fabricated stories, to large audiences of Evangelicals around the county who, upon hearing it, shout "Praise the Lord! Praise the Lord!" 

  

Decker et al vs. the Tanners et al 

If you are wondering why the Tanners, two of the most prominent anti-Mormon researchers and publishers, are publishing things which expose Ed Decker as a LIAR, then I'll tell you.